Comments on: The World (of English) According to Me - Pt. 1 http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/ Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:37:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Is It Time, Yet?: Thoughts On Teaching http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-263 Is It Time, Yet?: Thoughts On Teaching Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:01:12 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-263 [...] about it already, but the ideas that have been jangling around in my head all summer come from Eric’s post. I’ll lay down specific ideas about that and other issues in the coming days, to help me sort [...] [...] about it already, but the ideas that have been jangling around in my head all summer come from Eric’s post. I’ll lay down specific ideas about that and other issues in the coming days, to help me sort [...]

]]> By: Change In Your Classroom: Thoughts On Teaching http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-262 Change In Your Classroom: Thoughts On Teaching Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:54:57 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-262 [...] is broken, William’s settlement, board approval of outside texts, etc. In further response to Eric’s post, how do English teachers work with popular texts? del.icio.us is a good resource. Add a tag to the [...] [...] is broken, William’s settlement, board approval of outside texts, etc. In further response to Eric’s post, how do English teachers work with popular texts? del.icio.us is a good resource. Add a tag to the [...]

]]> By: Eric http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-260 Eric Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:28:58 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-260 Best of luck in the SI, Nate. I found it to be the second-most important and helpful professional development activity in my nine years of teaching (just behind getting my masters degree). Hope yours is as wonderful. Will you be blogging about your learning as you go through? That would be interesting to follow. Best of luck in the SI, Nate. I found it to be the second-most important and helpful professional development activity in my nine years of teaching (just behind getting my masters degree). Hope yours is as wonderful. Will you be blogging about your learning as you go through? That would be interesting to follow.

]]> By: Eric http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-259 Eric Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:26:52 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-259 Sorry, Tom ... no luck on my end either. If you nab one somehow, I'd sure love it if you sent it my way! Sorry, Tom … no luck on my end either. If you nab one somehow, I’d sure love it if you sent it my way!

]]> By: Formulas FTW: Thoughts On Teaching http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-257 Formulas FTW: Thoughts On Teaching Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:13:00 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-257 [...] later, but I want to help this conversation about English assessment grow as much as I can. Eric Hoefler brings up some interesting thoughts, admittedly from a distance that might skew his interpretations. His theorizing feels spot on at [...] [...] later, but I want to help this conversation about English assessment grow as much as I can. Eric Hoefler brings up some interesting thoughts, admittedly from a distance that might skew his interpretations. His theorizing feels spot on at [...]

]]> By: Nate Stearns http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-256 Nate Stearns Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:38:12 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-256 Thanks not only for putting your ideas out there but including such a tast reading list afterwards. I've wanted to read Clueless in Academe as well as Beyond the Culture Wars. Also, I'm doing the Puget Sound version of the NWP this August and I'm psyched to see how it goes. Nate Stearnss last blog post..<a href="http://lazyteacher.edublogs.org/2008/06/26/teacher-on-the-screen/" rel="nofollow">Teacher on the Screen</a> Thanks not only for putting your ideas out there but including such a tast reading list afterwards. I’ve wanted to read Clueless in Academe as well as Beyond the Culture Wars. Also, I’m doing the Puget Sound version of the NWP this August and I’m psyched to see how it goes.

Nate Stearnss last blog post..Teacher on the Screen

]]> By: Tom Hoffman http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-255 Tom Hoffman Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:09:59 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-255 Have you managed to scrape up a bootleg copy of the Pacesetter English curriculum (I tore my house apart looking for mine... I lost it somehow)? It is out of print and my dream is to somehow convince a foundation to buy it from ETS and release it as open content. Have you managed to scrape up a bootleg copy of the Pacesetter English curriculum (I tore my house apart looking for mine… I lost it somehow)? It is out of print and my dream is to somehow convince a foundation to buy it from ETS and release it as open content.

]]> By: dy/dan » Blog Archive » Tying Loose Ends http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-254 dy/dan » Blog Archive » Tying Loose Ends Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:04:06 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-254 [...] Eric Hoefler examines skill-based assessment within the humanities. [...] [...] Eric Hoefler examines skill-based assessment within the humanities. [...]

]]> By: Eric http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-258 Eric Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:54:33 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-258 Thanks, H! <blockquote>maybe, despite all efforts at accessing the material, there just might be nothing there</blockquote> I suspect this is common, and that students end up feeling this way either because 1) the teacher is teaching from a pre-fab curriculum and has no sense of the skills necessary (and possibly no insight of his/her own), 2) the teacher enjoys protecting his/her "authority" (like the wizard behind the curtain) by not giving the students the tools/power, or 3) the teacher just honestly doesn't know how to translate the skills from personal use to something accessible to students. It's not an easy task, though, and I don't think there are enough resources out there to help teachers with making this translation. At least, that's been my experience. Thanks, H!

maybe, despite all efforts at accessing the material, there just might be nothing there

I suspect this is common, and that students end up feeling this way either because 1) the teacher is teaching from a pre-fab curriculum and has no sense of the skills necessary (and possibly no insight of his/her own), 2) the teacher enjoys protecting his/her “authority” (like the wizard behind the curtain) by not giving the students the tools/power, or 3) the teacher just honestly doesn’t know how to translate the skills from personal use to something accessible to students.
It’s not an easy task, though, and I don’t think there are enough resources out there to help teachers with making this translation. At least, that’s been my experience.

]]> By: H. http://erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-261 H. Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:32:52 +0000 http://blog.erichoefler.com/2008/06/17/the-world-of-english-according-to-me-pt-1/#comment-261 I love this, but I'm a math teacher and no authority on the matter :) I wish any of the language arts classes I've taken had been more craft, less mystique. To be honest, I often felt very confused in my high school language arts classes (in every one of my three languages); the goals, the standards of quality, the way inferences were made - everything was unclear. I had no such difficulties with grasping the purpose and meaning of any other subject, and while it is of course possible to just lack talent in a specific academic area, I found it somewhat annoying that dealing with literature should involve such inaccessible subtlety. Toward the end of high school I started reading a few books on literary criticism on my own, and while some of that was <i>really</i> incomprehensible at least it didn't give that unsettling feeling that maybe, despite all efforts at accessing the material, there just might be nothing there. H.s last blog post..<a href="http://coffeeandgraphpaper.blogspot.com/2008/06/applying-dans-assessment-system-part-ii.html" rel="nofollow">Applying Dan's assessment system, Part II - scoring</a> I love this, but I’m a math teacher and no authority on the matter :) I wish any of the language arts classes I’ve taken had been more craft, less mystique. To be honest, I often felt very confused in my high school language arts classes (in every one of my three languages); the goals, the standards of quality, the way inferences were made - everything was unclear. I had no such difficulties with grasping the purpose and meaning of any other subject, and while it is of course possible to just lack talent in a specific academic area, I found it somewhat annoying that dealing with literature should involve such inaccessible subtlety. Toward the end of high school I started reading a few books on literary criticism on my own, and while some of that was really incomprehensible at least it didn’t give that unsettling feeling that maybe, despite all efforts at accessing the material, there just might be nothing there.

H.s last blog post..Applying Dan’s assessment system, Part II - scoring

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